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[00:00:00] I am so freaking excited that Jeb is here. Jeb, who are you? What do you do? Tell us about yourself. My, my name is Jeb. I'm a filmmaker and musician in New York. that's probably been said maybe, I don't know, I don't know how many millions of times, but it's true.
The worst- Oh, no. In New York. Yeah, that's probably, like, the classic thing. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here and it's nice.
_I first became aware of you when I found your 15 Second Films account, That captivated me first and then just you, your energy, your brand, your look, the creative vibrance that just rolls off you in, in, like, a tidal wave. _
_So that was the second thing that captivated me. tell us about 15 Second Films, but also I wanna hear your origin story as an artist and, like, how you do what you do and just seemingly tirelessly creative. Cool. Um, so I guess I'll start with the 15 Second Film. _ _Um, that, I started that around, probably a _[00:01:00] _speck longer than a year ago now._
I, I made a video here in the city. I was still going to school at, at Temple University. And, um, a company... I didn't know _of any of the kinda short form companies that were here, but they reached out, Fallen Media reached out, and they were like, "Do you wanna do a show?" I was like, "Oh, I didn't know this was a thing."_
_And pretty quickly I was like, I just came up with this idea. It kinda just was like opened my eyes. I was like, "Oh, I mean, maybe actually a show would be cool," and I've always loved filmmaking. So I was like, "Okay." That came pretty quickly._
_It was like, "That's the one." and then I got my, friends together and I shot it and they were like, It kept doing really well and we kind of, I moved in with, oh, I started this junior year of college in the, end of the year. And then, that summer I moved to New York and it, developed it with my friends, and we subletted in this place, and I moved in with my friend Becca, who we didn't know almost at all at the time._
_And we kind of all worked together to figure out what the best way was. And now it's been just doing _[00:02:00] _really well, and we get to make a, a movie every week or two, which is awesome. So we get to be on set and miniature and it feels like making a film every time. So- And you're sponsored by a company?_
_Yeah, Fallen Media produces the show. Got it. Yeah. it's nice 'cause they, they let me have completely creative thing. and they kind of are like just like a Rolodex of, , people and ways to make it get out, get out there, which is great._
_So how long have you been doing this show, and how long before it started to take off? So I think the good thing about it is, I've been doing social media a long time, like just prior for, with my own videos, and they're all skits and stuff like that._
_But this one, we posted it, and it immediately just like went crazy. Wow. But actually, I messed up, I even messed up the post. I had to repost it and it... Yeah, it was like, I know, it was bad, and I redid it, and it still performed really well, and I was like, "Okay." The first shoot we ever did, I felt like there's something really special because- we got this random guy who was sitting in Philly. The first one was in Philly. And when he was _[00:03:00] _directing it and it kind of started to flow, we were like, "Oh, this is like amazing, gold stuff." So that essence, I was like, "Oh, we have something crazy."_
_You struck gold. Yeah, yeah. It's cool. That's amazing. So from day one, successful. Yes. Which is, sometimes lucky 'cause I've been doing it for so long, but this one for some reason just did so well off the bat that it was like, thankfully, 'cause then we put all of our energy into it, and it's still going._
_So, you know, 'cause sometimes if you do something and you do five episodes, you might move on to the next if it's not doing good. I love that._
I'm really excited because Instagram's starting their new series, uh, feature.
Oh. And I'm releasing all of my short films ever- Get out of here ... as series, as little one-minute clips. No way. Wait- Verticals, we're coming for you. Wait
Wait, this is g- I have not, I don't know. I don't know about this. Breaking, breaking news here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so what is it? So you know how you have reels? Yes. This is a dedicated series feature, so it'll be like you have stories, [00:04:00] grid, reels. This is gonna be series, so it's a new category. What? On the, on your, like, actual pages?
Correct. Oh. And it, right now it's select creators, but pretty soon it's gonna be everybody. I'm like, "Bitch, why didn't you- Yeah, were you selected or what? No, not selected. Weird. Okay. Yeah. Literally I'm a TV independent showrunner, like- Yeah, right ... you would think. But anyway, so- Can you, can you, like, see it on certain people's things already?
Yes. What? Yes. So when it comes, you're gonna be able to think of it as highlighted stories, but for videos. Oh, wow. So you can categorize? Yeah. You could have, like, 15-second films and then another series could be Jeb's- Dude ... Weird World of Jokes or whatever. Whoa. Wow, that's awesome. 'Cause I've always struggled with, like, trying to
This feels like, it feels like it feels fake. It feels like I'm like, how sh- how do I not know this? Like I'm punking you right [00:05:00] now? Yeah, but no, I guess that's insane. 'Cause like it's perfect 'cause it's like, damn, I do music, um, films and all these other things and I always have this horrible OCD about categorizing
_yeah,_ I'm kind of counting on that to, to boost my- Oh, yeah ... my short films and, and do vertical edits of them and, and start to get them out that way. Um, because I've just been sitting on them. Like, I'm not a kind of a YouTube kind of person or persona. Yeah. You know, I'm not a Cory Barker. Yeah. I'm more of like a make something really special, and then give it like a picture frame and like- Right, yeah.
_A rollout. You're right. You know? Yeah. which- Package. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. More packaged, more curated. But that has not necessarily served me well, It's funny 'cause you could put so much time into like a really cool rollout curation, and then it's just like kind of flicked through _if there's like two seconds of black screen.
You know? How do you reconcile that? I don't know. I mean, like, well, what I think I've figured out is that... Maybe, I don't know if I've figured it [00:06:00] out, but, um, I see especially more and more that people that are just doing like being completely not even having any filters or edit- Mm-hmm ... even like anything.
_Like, just face to camera stuff. And even if it's low quality visually or audio-wise, I don't know why recently, but it's been really doing well. And just like talking to a camera with like literally a quality that's not an iPhone. It's so weird. It's 'cause it's like novel,_
cause it stands out more when stuff is, looks like it's very novice or something. But like combining that with the higher quality stuff is cool. Yo, you just explained to me why I saw an interview with like Hollywood Reporter, and they were switching the camera to a very bad quality one.
Oh, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, "Oh, it's Hollywood Reporter. Like, where's their budget on this?" Uh-huh. No, it was intentional for the algorithm. Oh my God, that's insane. Yeah, they know what... They must know what they're [00:07:00] doing. Yeah, 'cause especially even with like, what is it? When Timothée Chalamet did that, um, Marta Supreme, um, thing on Zoom.
Like, uh, you know what I'm talking about? Where he's just like des- Mm-hmm ... describing the advertising campaign- Yeah ... in a meeting. It's just really funny. And that did so well. Yes. Uh, he's sort of, stock is falling perhaps, but- Oh, God. Yes. Disaster on Chalamet? Uh, a bit, yeah. I mean, I think. Kelly, what do you think?
What happened to him? The ballet comment really did him in a bit. What happened to him? He basically- I mean, I'm gonna cop out. He had a... He's alive. Um- Well, he didn't win the Oscars, what- Oh, yeah, yeah, of course ... happened. He started dating the Kardashian. I guess he's the different version of what, whatever, four years... Was it four years ago? What was he doing four years ago? Call Me By Your Name. Yeah, Call Me By Your Name. It's pretty insane from then to now. Who knows? Yeah. He said that opera and [00:08:00] ballet were dying.
Oh, that's right. And theater, right? Or m- or something. Just opera and ballet.
_I just think if you're very rich, you're automatically... And you're a celebrity, you're automatically in a leadership role. Yeah, yeah. And so you wanna demonstrate kindness and leadership- Yeah, ... and not shitting on the underdog, you know? Yeah, to like, especially I feel like it's the the- theater and ballet and all those physical art forms are, like, more important than ever._
Tell me more. Well, I just, I actually love dancing. Oh, well, here's the problem. I like dancing a lot, but I'm really, like, self-conscious when I dance real, like... I for, okay, there was, for example, the, I recently just picked up an amp from Facebook Marketplace, and I'm not even kidding. So this guy sen- sent me a message.
I was going through it with him, and first of all, I'm just like super, really paranoid about everything. And I, um, I was, like, going through it, and every [00:09:00] time I get something from someone online, I think they're a psychopath. Yeah, for sure. That like... But I really start to, like, believe it. I don't know why.
But then he said something like, 'cause we drove out all the way to, like, the middle of nowhere in New York, out there. And there was, uh, he sent me a message that said, "Just dance when you get to my door." I'm like, "How does he know this?" Um- ... 'cause I used to do, I u- I used to do these TikTok, I used to knock on doors on TikTok and dance.
And then I, I would dance in front of their door. And, it did really well, and I was actually paying rent, like, beyond rent for a few months on TikTok just 'cause I was dancing, so I was a professional dancer. You were a male dancer. Yeah, yeah. I was professional at dancing.
But this, I didn't know how this guy knew it. And I, I swear, I got to the place with my friend, and I was like, it took a while from the open the door, and I was freaking. I was like, "Oh, dude, I don't know where we are." And, and he opens the door with a ph- his phone recording, [00:10:00] and he's this, like, 50-year-old dude, and he's like, he just is holding his phone.
And he's like, "Dance." Yeah, this was yesterday. And, and, uh, it was insane. And I did- Why did he say that? Because, so the, I figured out- Did he know you were the dance guy? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Figured it out. He f- he, uh, somehow found it. I guess maybe it was attached to my Facebook page. I don't know how. I don't have, I don't use Facebook, but maybe it double posted.
Um, anyway, that goes back. I think- I love dancing, and I think it's the best, the most instant form of expression. Did you get the amp? Yep. Yeah. Did he apologize for being scary? No, no, he wasn't scary. He was actually really nice. Okay. And he made great, uh... He made great, uh, coffee cake. Sarah, yeah, yeah. Sounds like you really saved that one.
Saved it? Yeah, could've been, that could've been a tough- Oh, it could- ... tough situation. Yeah, you never know. You never know. It's g- it could be that way. It could be that way with one thing. I don't know. [00:11:00] Yeah, yeah.
People used to make edits of me dancing all the time. There's a bunch of weird edits back when I was doing, like, really short skits, but those, you could probably find them somewhere.
I used to do bathroom stall pranks. Wait, like, what? I used to, like, put mannequin heads over ba- um- Bathroom stalls. This was when I was first making videos in college, and like they did so well, and there's still people... I'm r- I am like cycling out of people who... I lose 8,000 followers a month and gain 8,000 followers because I had so many people that were following me for this absolute bullshit that I was making, and like I'm stuck in this void.
So- They were like clipping your bathroom stall humor? Yes. It would get fucking like 100 million views. I'm so serious. It was crazy. Yeah. What would you do, though? You would put a mannequin head in a stall? Yeah. I would just walk up and put a mannequin head over a stall with people shitting.
And I actually almost got punched in the face for it once. It was horrible. [00:12:00] Yeah, I've never... I don't even know what... So that's places- Putting your body on the line for your art. I know. Yeah, I'll never be able to get away from that. Can't stand it. On that note, very serious- Yeah ... uh, stuff here.
going back to you as an artist, so you... I say this as a tired person. You have so much energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing. Like, I know some of it is just being young. I was young once.
Oh, God. But, um, some of it is, I think, you uncorking your creative energy and, like, unleashing that life force. Right. Yeah. So how do you stay uncorked, so to speak? Uncorked, like, like the cork on the- Flowing ... like, wine bottle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's just always flowing. Oh, oh, good. I like that one. I do have quite a bit of energy, which is good. Um Like, I can usually run all day and I'm, fine. Which is funny because I do actually think I'm doing a lot, but what I think happens is, [00:13:00] um, I do all this stuff and I don't physically feel tired, but it really, really catches up in weird ways with, um, kind of like strange neurological things that happen in my body, I think.
_But I don't wanna go down that, that hole. But that's something that I think about. Anyway, the- Wait, I feel you though. Yeah, it's- Like, I had that recently as well. Oh yeah, it's like a, I think manifests. Like, my neck would just start twitching. Yes, I actually, the exact thing. I have muscle fasciculations, but they're all over my body, and they've hap- been happening for, two years._
_I could talk about that forever on a neurological podcast. I think the reason that I can do so much is just 'cause I'm so excited about every, all of it. Like, I love it and I'm really excited and I'm finding things to be,_
_I don't care that if I'm a little tired. And, uh, yeah, it just keeps going. But then I, I get tired and I sleep, of course. But- You, oh, you sleep? Yeah, I sleep and s- so I've been sleeping really good recently 'cause I moved into a new place. Hell yeah. It has a tree and it _[00:14:00] _blocks creeps from looking in. Yeah, it's nice._
_That's amazing. Yeah. You were at Tribeca. _Yes. How was... We, uh, we ran into each other there and had a great- Yeah ... chat at a party. How was it for you? _It was really good. 'Cause Tribeca's w- I think maybe the one of the only film festivals that actually have been doing- Hmm._
_They're on the cusp of, like, newer things. They do, like- Sundance, Tribeca. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have this social media, they had Tribeca Now, which was a, new online work, but it, they curated it to where it had a crossover with film, so all of the stuff was kind of episodic, like film and TV that was combined on social media that didn't lose the essence of quality._
_And so we were selected, 52 Second Film, which was amazing, and we got to have our whole pre- uh, it wasn't a premiere 'cause they were li- aired, but we literally had, we had the- _[00:15:00] _Theatrical premiere ... theatrical premiere, yeah. We had the red carpet thing. So we all, all my friends, got to, we all got to mess around and just take pictures there, which was funny._
_And then we went in to the AMC on Broadway- Which was awesome, and it was, like, one of the big rooms, and it was completely, literally completely sold out. Wow. And, uh, there were other amazing, people I met there that were doing their own shows and also film. We were all in the same world there, and, it was recepted really well._
_I edited the s- vertical things, 'cause you know how they have the, we have the narrative part that goes, before, and then we have, the actual film. I edited it so where it took up the entire screen for the actual- Oh, wow ... um, for the actual film. So we had the full wide screen film shown of the episodes, and it was awesome._
Um, so I'm so, so happy about that. And I, I just met a million people. Uh, I got stranded to you at that party, went to some [00:16:00] weird parties and felt anxious and awkward. And- That's every podcast ... stood in corners. Yeah, yeah, Amazing, and, and has anything come out of that? I mean, other than an incredible, uh, f- feather in your cap.
_You know, did you get any, like, did an agent be like, "I wanna represent you," or...? Well, I think a lot of the things that happened was we're all kind of like... The good thing about stuff like that is because it's... I don't know what I'm saying right now. The good thing about, that is when somebody sees, it's kind of funny how it works, just like spectacle, but, like, when somebody sees that you're in Tribeca for something- Yes_
_it kind of validates it for everybody. And you haven't changed. You're literally have, are doing nothing different. It's- Nothing different. Yeah. Yeah. It's a validation thing from the outside, which is actually, it's good that these things are there, because, how else, there's gotta be some- Yes ... kind of thing for credit to be built._
_Yes. But so that means that something, but it's being accepted in the mainstream, critical reviews and stuff _yeah, exactly. And, like, [00:17:00] that has brought a lot of just, like, that validity in myself as, like, a person doing stuff. Not, not internally. Um, it was it was definitely super fun, but for people to be like, "Okay, this guy's legit with filmmaking"- Yeah _and social media especially._ I've talked to a lot of people, There's a lot of people with a lot of, uh, like things to do and potential and, um, it's just for expansion, but I'm kind of like, "Okay, where do I go with it?"
Where do you wanna go? Let's, that, let me ask that. Hmm. I, I've been talking about this a lot. Um, there's like three kinda ways, um, that I, I d- all wanna do them equally, but I just know it's very hard right now.
_One of them is I want to continue doing short form stuff, and integrating it with film. , Or very curated stuff on the same curation as like shows and films and like working with characters really on these like epis- episodic things. And _[00:18:00] _doing that and expanding them-_
_with like longer versions of those. I also would love, to expand 15 Second Film into a longer- I'm trying to figure out that with budget-wise,_ how that would work, but I'm super confident on the idea of like plant- Like there are a few characters and episodes that have done really well- Mm
for 15 Second Film.
so I- it's really hard to choose. I can't really even have... I don't know. Like, we just had, dax Flame is a, a comedian, an actor, and, uh, he's really hilarious. But he just did one that was so funny, that's hasn't been out yet.
So that might, that one might be my favorite. But performance-wise, a analytical performance, whatever, the people who have performed really well, they are just really good episodes, and it's, proof that there's- Mm
a large audience that likes these people's just personality- Yeah ... who would watch a whole 45-minute [00:19:00] version of it with, a 10-minute-long film and going more into their life and they get to cast people, they get to write a script. Yeah. They get to produce a entire, real short film.
so that's, I would love to do that. That is if the budget allows and it has a built-in advertising engine with the short-form show that would push traffic to the longer-form show. I'm writing two feature films right now. I'm bullet-pointing them that I've been thinking for so long 'cause, just bullet pointing, things and getting in my head, and then I write pretty quick. Yeah, same. Yeah, it's like, gotta figure it and I'd say think for 90, write for 10.
I think that's, yeah, exactly. I think that's what it is. And, like, so I'm in the process with that with two things. and I'm not ready to do a feature, produce it yet, but I definitely could get the story down, and I would love to, and excitement to do that. So and in that time before that happens, I'm writing some quick, really, like, character-focused, intense shorts, um, that I'm gonna [00:20:00] combine with, like, a weird kind of social media feel to it.
And, um- Yeah ... and I'm planning making a lot of music, so that's all that I'm doing. It's amazing, and I think one of the things that's extraordinary about you, 'cause I remember being as young as you were and having all of these creative ideas and energy, and just my confidence was, like, beneath the floor.
So I did not have the ability to go out into the world and, plug into the systems- Yeah ... and people- Yeah, yeah ... and larger world. And I think that was the main thing that really set me against working towards my creative expression. Yes. Yeah. So it just is so cool that you have the sort of the self-esteem to, just jump
and engage and, plug into people. Yeah. I think I appreciate that. I think it's easy, especially honestly with social media, I'm lucky that I've been doing it for a long time just because, it's really hard to get into it now, and it's more, embarrassing to get into it or [00:21:00] whatever if you're just starting.
The reason I brought that up is because the social media is a weird means to being like, okay, this is being approved in some weird way. Which is bad also. But, um, I think one of the reasons that- I'm not confident in a lot of other things in my life. Being, being like a reg- like, being a functional like, like, I get embarrassed looking at a map.
I get embarrassed doing really, really normal things, which is funny, and I'm not confident in that. And, but I am really confident in my creative ideas, and that's like just something that's been around. And I, of course, I have self-doubts with whatever creative thing I'm doing.
I'm very critical about it, but I'm really like confident in the truth of it, in the underlying like, "Okay, I know there's something here." Yeah. And like the original feeling. Yeah. Execution can vary, but- Yeah, execution, yeah. And if I didn't make this stuff, I would be really sad. I was just like, I couldn't...
If I don't make it, I'd be [00:22:00] sad, so it's kind of no choice. Yeah. Well, for sure. So, and no pressure, but whenever you're ready to have me direct, send 15 seconds in- Oh, tot- Yeah ... no, 100%. Yeah, yeah. I can make myself available- Yeah, for sure. I- ... to you and your team.
You have famous ass directors on there.
. There's a... It's, we just did one with Nicholas Refn, which was crazy. That was pretty bizarre, and it did really well. I saw it, yeah. And it was a good episode. I made sure to e- edit it and curate it, So weirdly, he had made a film called Bronson, but I, for some reason, I didn't- You did Bronson?
Yeah. It was so good. I didn't actually know this, and I didn't know about Bronson, but I casted this guy who's really buff, who and a really hilarious, good actor named Mike. And, without knowing it, but- Wow ... it turned out to be, like, a miniature version of that character. Yeah, he looks like Bronson.
Yeah, it was weird. I don't know how, it just happened. But- Wow ... anyway, the, I think that Nicholas Refn doing the film and it doing well really has unlocked some, I think, in [00:23:00] the, for this next year, g- it's going to be like, be like- Yeah ... okay, the, like, the, whoever- Rory Hertzog ... director. Did I tell you that? I think I said that to you.
Did I not say that? I was like, "My dream is to have Hertzog on." He'll be on. I think he... That's when I'm ending it. That's the last. 'Cause seriously, that's actually my dream, have him on. Yeah. I think it'd be so funny. You will get there. Yeah, no, I think it'll happen, which will be, I'll explode that day, but- Insane.
Yeah. You're doing it, man. Yeah, it's true. It's cool. I'm just trying to translate it. I can't, will not, cannot wait to translate all this knowledge into a feature film. Yeah. Eventually. Yeah. Or, or, or something else that's of the scale. Yeah. Well- Like, if the feature film tour that's music And acting on stage If this year has taught us anything, it's that Hollywood loves a young white man who-
has conquered a corner of the internet. Uh, there's, this is [00:24:00] a, the problem too. Like, I mean, there... I was talking to somebody about this, I think a lot of big people have seen that Backrooms and Obsession have done well, and especially the case with Backrooms. Um- Because he had no film experience whatsoever.
Right. Kane is really, like, a super talented person and, like, artist. Like even he says, it's a community, and the reason that there was so much behind it already was the built-in community. Mm. But a lot of people are take- sharking at the idea of like, "Okay, we just need to get this-" Right
pick, adapt this, IP that has a bunch of, um-
people behind it or a lot of views on this one video Fans. Yeah And without like really, um, thinking about it. And that's, I guarantee you within the next two years we're gonna see so- uh, you already see it being like in production, but there's so many like internet native things that are being adapted and it's like, [00:25:00] I guarantee a bunch of these, a majority of these like people are not gonna...
it's gonna be like, maybe, who knows, not what I'm saying. But the, the reasoning for them adapting it is to make as much money as these other people have made, and it's not gonna come authentic. But I, like the backrooms thing was totally authentic. It was like one of the first of its kind.
Everything was cool about it, but everyone's gonna try to copy it and be like, "Duh, duh, duh." Yeah, because they don't understand what they're copying. Exactly, yeah. He is a world expert on backrooms. Yes. He is the, he is the world expert on backrooms. Yeah, yeah. And Curry Barker is the world expert on really hyper-focused, uh, short form idea that translates into long form execution.
Yeah, yeah, yes. Yeah. I mean, he had hundreds of- Yeah ... sketches that he had been filming for quite a long time. And like Obsession, there is no B plot. No. It's a sketch turned into a movie. It is. Yeah, and it really hit. Like it's every piece is killer. And he [00:26:00] was exactly at the intersection of something that is kinda cool and funny, but also horror.
Yes. Yeah, yeah. It's- So it was the perfect formula. It was the perfect formula. And I mean, he, he just must have known it. But like my fear, this is the fear I have, is I know for a fact, like what I want to make, probably wouldn't be as marketable as like something. That's the majority of things.
Like not close to as marketable as 15 second film or, um- anything. But I'm scared to get swallowed up in the wave of adaptations that are on the, on the way of things, and kind of get lost in like, "Oh, this is another..." within however many years of whatever, this is just, like, another one of the- No, I think-
internet people. No. And it's scary, 'cause like I'm confident in my stuff, if there's some like cliche now that happens, it's like, "Oh, this internet..." But so far it's been positive, but who knows [00:27:00] if like, who knows what comes out, I think we're pretty far from people shitting on the cliche.
Yeah, it's so new. It's so new. We're literally in the middle of what they, the, like almost what, 300 million mark that, uh, Obsession hit? Oh, I think it's, I literally think it's worldwide 450 million. Okay, yeah. So- It's insane ... we're a long way from people, from a backlash I think.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. And also your shit is good, so. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, like whatever idea, I mean, I could totally see some new, like redefining what a musical hybrid is. Right Like music plus cinema and, and how that might look in the future, or redefining the music video. Yeah, yeah.
Like that's you, you know? Yeah. I, I did a music video that I don't know if you've seen, I can send it to you, it's Endur- for my song Endorsed and Orphaned. I, um, it was a, I mean, people have done this before I'm sure, but [00:28:00] it was a short film, like narrative short film. But it, it was introduced as a talk show and just a film on its own, and then it turned into the music video.
The music video, the music was a secondary aspect of the actual thing. It was filmed first probably, but yeah. Sick. So okay, what is, uh, first of all, where can people find you and your show? And then tell us maybe what to look out for in the future. My show is called 15 Second Film.
Um, it's just 15 Second Film on, on all the platforms. And we have, we think- There's some cool, there's some cool people that have done some write-ups about it too that are interesting if you wanna know more, um, about the, the origins or whatever. The press. The press. And my personal stuff, I usually go as world of jeb like on Instagram and that.
And for my music it's soundofjeb, sometimes I'm like, "What the hell did I [00:29:00] do to myself?" I put myself in this loop. But, and then my name is just Jeb McCormick. That's, so if, and my, if you wanna reach out to me for something weird, you can g- look at it in my Instagram. Am I correct that there's merch with your face on it?
Oh, yeah. That's funny. So yeah, there's a hat with my face on it, which seems like the most narcissistic thing in the world, and that's probably why I actually stopped wearing it. I would wear it a lot, but I felt self-conscious. But I, so I have this idea of doing a br- I want to revive the... I originally had this idea for this brand, and people would, people were buying my hats.
Like- Yeah ... people were buying the hats with my face on it and, like, sending me pic- the random people sent me pictures of it. It ended up people see it out in the wild- Mm ... and send me pictures. Like, what the hell? But I kinda gave up on it, but now that I'm thinking about it I gotta revive it, 'cause what I wanna do is have a system where people can upload their friends' faces on the hat, or [00:30:00] their own, and they could- Hell yeah
like, yeah. And I, I'm just, I think I might be at the spot where I could find a manufacturer that can make it happen in New York really quick- Yeah ... because I, I really think it's funny. Yeah, and then it can be the, the logo is just your little teeny face in the bottom. Yeah, exactly. But that's actually, that's another thing I wanna do, so I'm a, I'm gonna be swallowed up-
The last thing I was gonna...
Go to physical live stuff. Like, that's what's changed my life, I think. Just showing up. Yeah. Doing, putting on live things. Yeah. And even though there's, like, a few, 100 people, 50 people, five, like that's what, that's what's actually cemented and s- solidified, like, what I do as real, and, like, actually set out the...
Like, I did a... Sorry, real classic. Yeah. I did a film festival here in New York, like, in 2024 at a place called Rogue. They let me host it there. It was my film festival. I made it called Parasite Pictures, Parasite Film Fest. And it [00:31:00] was, like, the first social media film festival.
Uh, I think, I really think it was the might've been the first. I m- I might be wrong and being too confident. But that allowed me to have really, like, grow roots in New York, to be honest. Yeah. Um, how I met my roommate who I moved in with, uh, last year. Um, yeah, so that's, I mean, that was... And there was like 100 people there, but it was great, and it was, that's what it is.
Yeah. In, in a world where digital is overtaking everything, I think I had a dream in, with, like, AI images the other night, and I was like, "It's, it's too much." Ugh. I don't want to even think. You know? We are starting to think in digital, the in-person is everything, and that's why I was so happy that you wanted to come on the podcast in person, because- Yeah
like, I have an energetic imprint of you now, and, like, I'm the better for it. Exactly. Exactly. [00:32:00] Yeah, yeah. Y- you know, my, my whole body, I'm like ali- I'm more alive now- Right. Yeah, yeah ... from being in person, so. Yeah, and you remem- it's, you remember, like, you remember that, if you remember when you see your favorite musician, it's really imprints.
Yeah, so- Or the people you talk to that- Get outside. Go do, show up. Do your own events. Make your own events. Show up to Jeb's events, and when he plays music, you better be there.
Thank you, Jeb, for all of your contributions to the world. Thank you. I hope that it's, I hope I'm doing something. Well, everyone follow Jeb right now. Follow World of Jeb for all of his filmmaking endeavors and original work, and follow 15 Second Film for the 15 second films, because one of these days very soon, you may see me directing for 15 Second Film. 100%. Thank you, everybody. This marks our two-year anniversary. It's great to have closed out in this fashion. I don't know if I'm gonna do more episodes. TBD. We're both really- Oh, shit
freaking busy. I know, right? Well, [00:33:00] that's... I'm honored to be the last if that's the case. TBD, folks. Stay tuned, and thank you so much, Jeb. Bye. Bye. Bye-bye.
